"If it's provable we can kill it."
Die, and be human
Published on March 17, 2008 By EmperorofIceCream In Philosophy

Science, by which I mean that episteme which states that the rational method is the sole arbiter of truth, denies Death. It denies to Death that supremacy which has been accorded to It by every previous culture in human existence. Rather than viewing Death as an ineluctable Power that cannot be defeated, it views Death as an equal adversary with which it is in contention. Medical Science wiews Death as an enemy that can be defeated. First, aging must be deferred indefinitely. Secondly, the final collapse of the human organism into  senescence and decay must be finally prevented.

This is not an article about whether this is possible; nor is it an article about how such an objective may be achieved. It is an article about what might happen to the ethical life of human beings if such an objective were ever to be achieved.

It is an article about the consequences of the demise of Death.

Suppose you are a criminal. Suppose you are captured, tried, and found guilty. And suppose your lifespan is so extensive that you can actually serve a term of 999 years and expect to survive. How would that alter your attitude to crime? How would it alter your attitude to life? How would it alter your attitude to your neighbor?

Suppose you can live beyond a handful of decades, and suppose you can do so in good health and with your faculties intact. Suppose that Death, for all practical purposes, should die.

There are practical considerations. The earth's population is already running at approximately six billion. Suppose that none of those six billion die. And that we continue to birth our descendants at the same rate that we presently introduce starving mouths into the world. The result is obvious: massive death due to over-population and the exhaustion of resources. So access to the technology which prolongs life would have to be rationed. And the only effective mechanism for global rationing of resources that we know of is the Market. So only the rich would have access to this technology. But everyone would want it. Generally, the only arbiter of how ultra-precious resources should be distributed has been the willingness to kill and to take. So the poor, who cannot afford this privilege, would war against the rich, who can afford it. And the poor infinitely outnumber the rich.

The technology, designed to prolong life, and its unavailability to all, would create war on earth on a scale that has never previously been experienced. The technology that prolongs life would produce Death on an unimaginable scale - because money and its possession is an insufficient arbiter of who should live and who should die. The successful creation of a technology to prolong life is the guarantor of universal war and universal death. Who would not kill his neighbor if by doing so he could, with certainty, live for a thousand years or more?

Now suppose that such a technology could be created; and further suppose that it could be created and introduced in such a way that social harmony and stability could be maintained. Consider the moral implications of such an advance. All our concepts of morality, the entire ethical life of humanity in the West, is predicated on the notion of the supremacy of Death, and of the reality of a judgment to be faced after death. What happens if death dies? Or at least can be postponed indefinitely?

The entire tradition of Western philosophy, which forms the foundation of every thought and opinion that you have, would at once be abrogated and nullified. There is no morality in the West without Death. Death is the one certainty we have allowed ourselves. Heaven and Hell are both alike the subject of speculation - but we all know that we will die.

What will we do, without Death?

Without Death, I would not know right from wrong. Without Death, I would not know truth from falsehood. Without Death, I would not know what crime is, or virtue, or justice. Because Death is the core of all these things. Death is the final arbiter of everything we will tolerate and everything we will not tolerate. If Death were to be removed from human experience we would have no idea of what it is to be human. Death is our defining limit, and without it we cannot know ourselves.

In order to live in a world without Death we would have to fundamentally reimagine ourselves. We would have to imagine ourselves without the desire to procreate - because in a world without Death birthing would be a privilege, not a natural function. Work, which would endure for centuries and not decades, would have to be in every case a vocation and not merely something done to ensure the availability of the necessities of life. If I were faced with the choice of working in a job I hated for centuries, or killing my employer, I'd kill my employer without hesitation. I'd torture him to death and dance on his grave.

Humanity is defined by its mortality, and any attempt to free humanity from its defining characteristic is a recipe for madness on the grand scale. I am almost fifty years old, and already the world I live in is almost unrecognizable to me. I see faint traces of what I knew all around me. But that's all they are. The language of the teenagers of the day I inhabit now is incomprehensible to me, and this is something that will only grow more and yet more unintelligible. In another fifty years, should I live that long, everything I have ever known will have passed away, and I will be as remote and antediluvian to those who come after me as I will be incomprehensible to them.

And there are fools who suggest that it might be a good thing to live for a thousand years at a time. I would sooner die now, this very minute, than survive into a time in which everything I understand to be real is challenged by the basic truths of a time in which I could not be anything but an alien and an interloper.

No. A society without Death is a society which I cannot comprehend, a society which contravenes every value I have ever held, a society which I cannot tolerate. I would kill to prevent its creation, because such a society would be an abomination.

Having said that, such a society would be an abomination only from the viewpoint of someone who could not comprehend it. And I could not. I am wedded to the idea of Death. Death is what gives my life value and I will not depart from it. I cannot. But those born into such a world, if such a world should ever exist, will think differently. And we of this age will be as alien to them as the ancient Egyptians are alien to us.

Long live Death. May we die forever. And may the Doctors and their pernicious, interfering ilk, be damned to the pits of Hell throughout all eternity. Their well meaning stupidity will be the death of everything that has ever been thought of as human.


Comments
on Mar 18, 2008

All our concepts of morality, the entire ethical life of humanity in the West, is predicated on the notion of the supremacy of Death, and of the reality of a judgment to be faced after death. What happens if death dies? Or at least can be postponed indefinitely?

What's this religious dogma coming from you. Fear of judgment is not why we're not all living in a JohnCarpenter film. I don't consider if there's a god or not, as you've said we are incapable of comprehending such a being that transcends existence and I agree, so I don't consider things that I have no way of comprehending. I do not believe that there is anything on earth, no scripture or religion that offers any insight on god.

There is no morality in the West without Death.

You base this on what? I see no evidence to suggest that death is central to morality in any way, if you have some please I'm interested.

Generally, the only arbiter of how ultra-precious resources should be distributed has been the willingness to kill and to take. So the poor, who cannot afford this privilege, would war against the rich, who can afford it. And the poor infinitely outnumber the rich.

Murdering someone would not get you access to life prolonging procedures in the future anymore than it does now, in fact it would assure that you would never get access to these treatments. Taking out a rich person doesn't entitle me to they're wealth or insurance.

We are the only species aware that we're going to die. You don't see evil in other species, even ones with complex emotions, (including anger) and social structures. I would argue that much of the evil we do is because of the awareness of our impending deaths. We don't have time for people to get out of way or go around. This sense of urgency and the thought that we only have one chance can drive some to extremes. Death eats at our subconscious and fills us with hopelessness as it approaches. It allows us to get to the point where we have nothing left to lose.

In a couple of centuries humanity is going to be unrecognizable regardless of whether we conquer death. Death is not just the buzz saw at the end of a conveyor belt, it is a process that starts at birth. Its has but one purpose, to facilitate evolution. We die because nature has no further use for us beyond reproducing, and it has no consideration of its effect on the human psyche. As the brain ages it greatly effects our personality and how we view the world around us. As we get older our brains build only a fraction of new neuron connection as when we were young and even struggles to keep the ones it has. If it were possible to keep the brain the flexible sponge it was in our youth, our ability to handle a rapidly changing world would be limitless.

If I were faced with the choice of working in a job I hated for centuries, or killing my employer, I'd kill my employer without hesitation. I'd torture him to death and dance on his grave.

By the end of this century working we be optional and even if you want to work you would have plenty of time to find something you enjoy in ever changing fields. The only reason we get stuck in jobs we hate to begin with is because we don't feel we have enough time left to change or profession.

No. A society without Death is a society which I cannot comprehend, a society which contravenes every value I have ever held, a society which I cannot tolerate. I would kill to prevent its creation, because such a society would be an abomination.

Why would you care at all? Let alone care enough to kill over.

What will we do, without Death?

Anything or nothing, at least that's something. Sorry about your imagination.

Having said that, such a society would be an abomination only from the viewpoint of someone who could not comprehend it. And I could not. I am wedded to the idea of Death. Death is what gives my life value and I will not depart from it. I cannot. But those born into such a world, if such a world should ever exist, will think differently. And we of this age will be as alien to them as the ancient Egyptians are alien to us.

How many survive suicide attempts and go on to live a life they obviously couldn't have imagined? No way around it your going to have to live a few hundred years to make an informed decision.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on Apr 05, 2008
This is only death on a superficial level. What of mental death that can find no reason for life in the face of crippling illnesses ?
on Apr 05, 2008
Stubbyfinger says..:

I don't consider things that I have no way of comprehending. I do not believe that there is anything on earth, no scripture or religion that offers any insight on god.:

I say..:

Does this include the New Testament ?

You say..:

How many survive suicide attempts and go on to live a life they obviously couldn't have imagined?

I say..:

Great observation
on Apr 19, 2008
Life labors and toils to hold on to itself. If one could drink of the proverbial fountain of youth, the hope that one would never die. Oh what one would give to live eternally?

Eternal life is promised to all. The only question is what will that abode entail?

For advise on this matter consider what Lazarus and the rich man say.

I would prefer 'long live life'. He that believeth on Christ shall never die, believest thou this?

hamartano
on Apr 20, 2008
Not two squirts of owl shit, hamsucker. I cannot imagine desiring something less.


Eternal youth and vitality - maybe, but only if I was but one of hundreds or more immortals. Eternal life in a Swiftian way - no way in hell would I desire that.