"If it's provable we can kill it."
Or, why it hurts to know God
Published on November 14, 2006 By EmperorofIceCream In Religion
Psalm 139
For the director of music. Of David. A psalm.
1 O LORD, you have searched me
and you know me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.

3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.

4 Before a word is on my tongue
you know it completely, O LORD.

5 You hem me in—behind and before;
you have laid your hand upon me.

6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.

7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?

8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.

9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,

10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.

11 If I say, "Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,"

12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.

13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.

15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,

16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.

17 How precious to me are your thoughts, O God!
How vast is the sum of them!

18 Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand.
When I awake,
I am still with you.

19 If only you would slay the wicked, O God!
Away from me, you bloodthirsty men!

20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.

21 Do I not hate those who hate you, O LORD,
and abhor those who rise up against you?

22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.

24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting.

The first time I read verses 13 to 17 I wept as I hadn't done since I was a child. Wept, as if I were in some secret place and no one could see me or have any knowledge of me. I wasn't alone though. I have not been alone since I came to know God - the first time. Still less am I ever alone now - and that by my choosing.

The first time I came to know God I also became a voracious reader of the Bible. In the twenty-odd years that have elapsed since my first crisis conversion I've read the Bible many times, cover to cover, though in no particular order and with emphasis on certain Books that I read again and again. Isaiah. Jeremiah. The Lamentations. The Song of Songs. Proverbs. Psalms. The Book of Job, of Jonah, of Esther, Ezekiel and Ecclesiastes. The moment of my greatest reassurance and certitude in my faith came when I first read Psam 91, possibly (in my own poor opinion) the most beautiful of all the Psalms. And the moment of my clearest apprehension of the nearness of God came when I first read that handful of verses from Psalm 139.

I was born with a congenital deformity of the left hand and arm. It's known by one of two terms: Poland's Syndrome or Poland's Anomaly. The right side of the body is affected twice as often as the left (so I am an anomaly within an anomaly). It's estimated that the condition, in some form or another (not all forms are blatant and obvious), affects 1 in 30,000 births - which makes it common but hard to recognise.

And yet, so the Psalm says, I am wonderfully and fearfully made, made by deliberate, intelligent, wilfull design to be the way that I am - a statistical anomaly and a genetic freak, a gimp. And when I first read those words what I felt was profound relief. I was not an 'accident'. I was not the result of a bad roll of the genetic dice. I was not simply the outcome of a poor combination of genetic material. I was intended. I was made. I was designed. Not only was that so, but all the days of my life, in full and perfect detail, were known in advance before any of them had come to be. Which meant that I had nothing to hide, nothing to pretend, nothing to keep back.

I was known, as I was, and I could for the very first time be completely and absolutely myself - because the surety for that certainty had been paid, upfront and for no good reason that I could discern, by Another.

I grew out of my attachment to Jesus. I grew out of my faith in the God of the Christians. But I remember the truth of the relief I felt when I realised that even a thing as obscure and unworthy as I was and am, was known, was taken notice of, had come to be through the will of something greater than myself.

When I was a child, long before my crisis conversion, I'd sit and read my Mother's old Bible - which was a huge thing, complete with reproductions of Old Master paintings of Biblical scenes and the Words of Our Lord in blood red print. And Something would sit by my side and keep me company. It was that same Something that I first mis-identified as Christ, and later recognised as a Thing infinitely more terrible. What the likes of KFC (our Resident 'prophet' and hotline to God) will never understand is that I have never lost my faith in God -only in a particular Name of God. I've come to realize that the Attributes of God are not what the Christians say they are, but I've also come to realize that they are accurately and rightly portrayed in the Bible and particularly in the Old Testament. And most particularly, as they are portrayed in the Book of Psalms.

Nothing that lives was created without purpose or reason, and in every case that purpose and reason is the same. That the life that is lived by the Living Thing created by God should, and will, redound to the Glory of God - even if that Glory is incomprehensible to those who perceive it.

After my encounter with Psalm 139, and the terrible affects and effects it wrought in my life (I have never been closer to suicide than I was in the immediate aftermath of reading Psalm 139) I was left with a question: why? Why was I shaped in the shape that I have?

There has never been any answer given to that question, and I doubt, very much, that I well ever receive an answer. Twenty-odd years later it no longer matters. I'm content with being the sonofabitch that I have become. If God don't like how I've turned out - then too bad. I can always go to Hell - and count on the presence of an interesting bunch of fellow damned sinners to keep me company.

And if, in consequence of the shaping effects of my deformity on my character as a whole, my character and my acts redound to the Glory of God as King even over the flesh It shapes to Its will, and if that will, in my case, is as perverse as the shape which molds my flesh - then that's the business of God, and not of myself or anyone else.

Let me tell you a fundamental truth. It hurts to know God. It deforms. But, even so, and though I am damned through it and because of it, I would rather know God than not. What greater treasure could I possess?

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on Nov 14, 2006
Very interesting perspective, Simon. Congrats on the new job!
on Nov 14, 2006
Wow. They say that when the student is ready the teacher will come.

Thank you.
on Nov 14, 2006
wow
on Nov 14, 2006
To: WyoMoo

Thank you. It is my confirmed belief that 'Christians' are least likely to have even the remotest acquaintance with God (acquaintance in the Gnostic sense of the word) because the 'Christian' is more concerned with understanding his or her image of God than with becoming known to the reality of God. I see why this happens: it's easier and less challenging. I sympathise with the human motivation of those subject to that particular form of pride and arrogance. But my sympathy doesn't prevent me from recognising that I, and they, know nothing.

What we think we know is human delusion. What we do not know, and what we are willing to recognise as the mark of our human condition (our absolute ignorance) is infinitely greater and transcends any attempt of ours to establish a limit to the mercy and grace of God.

I know nothing of the truth of God. And neither do you. This is as it should be. Only those willing to recognise and accept that truth are worthy to be called worshipers of God, because only they recognise the infinite depths of their own ignorance.

I know nothing. And I have nothing to say, beyond this:

God is Great. God is Good.

That's the limit of our understanding. And the limit of our lives in the world. We know nothing.
on Nov 14, 2006
To: everyone that has reponded

Thank you.
on Nov 14, 2006
To: all

In the interests of subverting and avoiding embarrasing nonsense, I want to say this. I am blind, deaf and dumb. I have nothing to say, and nothing to tell. What I know, you know.

I am no better than you, and certainly no wiser.

All I know and all I understand is this -

God is Great. God is Good. And beyond that is nothing but speculation.
on Nov 14, 2006
I'm glad you're happy to know God. Despite everything else, you still believe. I agree with you that it is painful to know God. It hurts because as we once discuss in another of your articles, we usually end up a sobbing mess [it's kind of hard to talk because my 5 yr old is still up and demanding time, so hopefully what I say makes sense!] as soon as we begin praying and worshipping.

It hurts because although we don't know him, we do know of him and about him, and he knows us oh so well. To love is to feel pain, to get close to someone and know them is to feel pain, sometimes.

I've often read Psalms 139, and still do. It has always moved me because of it's description of God's knowlege of us and the feelings it evokes in me. It makes us so vulnerable. The first line "Oh Lord you have searched me and know me" He knows me, he knows my deepest thoughts, more than anyone else, I can be myself to him. Not that I'm not myself but I can open my mind and my way of being to him without fear of criticism or failure, and he accepts me for what I am.

Although you may have a deformity in the eyes of everyone else (except your wife of course) it might seem grotesque but to Him as you say you are beautiful. And I think somehow we are all deform in some way or another because we are not perfect. Even me with no visible deformity, in my mind, I'm deformed because I'm not perfect, not in God's way.


"23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.

24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting."

There's a song that I like to sing from these two verses that I learned as a little girl going to Sunday school which still gives me pleasure to sing and think about and is soothing to me.

"Search me O God, and know my heart I pray, cleanse me O Saviour, know my heart I pray, see if there be, some weaken way in me. Cleanse me from every sin and set me free"

There are quite a few songs from verses of the bible that I learned and have not forgotten.

on Nov 15, 2006
What we think we know is human delusion. What we do not know, and what we are willing to recognise as the mark of our human condition (our absolute ignorance) is infinitely greater and transcends any attempt of ours to establish a limit to the mercy and grace of God.

I know nothing of the truth of God. And neither do you. This is as it should be. Only those willing to recognise and accept that truth are worthy to be called worshipers of God, because only they recognise the infinite depths of their own ignorance.

I know nothing. And I have nothing to say, beyond this:

God is Great. God is Good.

That's the limit of our understanding. And the limit of our lives in the world. We know nothing.


I agree with most of what you said here, EoIC. I think you're spot on when you say that Christians are probably the least likely to know God, because we tend to think that it's so important that we figure Him all out. I know I've come to realize in the past few years that I'm just dumb (completely speaking for myself here), and there's NO way that I can truly, fully understand Him. I think coming to that conclusion has helped me be much more accepting of people. Previous to my "epiphany" I was very exclusive--"All gay people are going to hell because the Bible says such and such, and all adulterers are going to rot in pits of sulfur," etc., etc. I don't believe that at ALL now. Casting away all of my "knowledge" has allowed me to become a much more accepting Christian, and beyond that, a much more accepting person all around.

All of that aside, the thing I disagree with is that I think the Bible does give us a bit of a glimpse into the essence of God. As mere mortals, I don't think anyone can ever even come close to fully comprehend Him, but I think we can have SOME insight into Him. Otherwise, how would one be able to say that He is great or good? But there is still no way that one can ever fully "get" God.

I have to tell you also, S., that you have challenged me. I've been a bible-thumping, hymn-sinin' Christian for almost 20 years. And honestly, I've never read the Bible in its entirety. The book of Malachai is completely lost on me. I really want to read the whole Bible in one year's time, even if I don't read it in "order". It's time for me to do that.
on Nov 15, 2006
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on Nov 15, 2006
What a beautiful article, Honey.


I agree. It's wonderfully written and offers insight into another side of you, Simon. I've really enjoyed reading it.
on Nov 15, 2006
I was left with a question: why? Why was I shaped in the shape that I have?

There has never been any answer given to that question, and I doubt, very much, that I well ever receive an answer


God is Great. God is Good.


Knowing the latter means you can at least afford peace of mind that whatever the reason is for your so-called defect, it’s a good, positive reason. Otherwise God, who is ultimately responsible for your condition, would not be good or great.

How do we know that God is good and great? We can’t tell by looking at the world, because the world is broken and often horrible. We can’t tell by looking at our Holy Books, because they often describe God as a tyrannical beast. The answer lies in what can be found within our own intuition, and in the wisdom of our heart.

I was left with a question: why? Why was I shaped in the shape that I have?

There has never been any answer given to that question, and I doubt, very much, that I well ever receive an answer


I believe that the answer is something to do with providing opportunities for the strengthening of spirit and promoting soul-growth. Oftentimes physical ‘imperfections’ can go a long way toward achieving spiritual perfection. Physical imperfections can force us to cultivate inner security, harmony and goodness, which stem from Spirit, and such riches can be attained regardless of physical or external conditions.
on Nov 15, 2006
To: foreverserenity

I'm glad you're happy to know God. Despite everything else, you still believe.


I believe in the Bornless and the Nameless, something as far removed from the 'Jesus' of my former faith as I am from a worm of the earth. I say that God is Good, God is great, in part as a holdover from the era of my Christianity, in part because I like the phrase. And in part as an article of faith.

The 'goodness' of God encompasses many things. A rare few of us live sublime lives. Another few spend their days in depravity, horror and misery. The goodness of God encompasses both, and everything in between. When God looked at what It had created It said of the creation that it 'was very good'. God being eternal and unbound by circumstance, this 'very good' does not refer to the state of creation as it was in that moment only, but to every possible state and condition it encompasses from its first beginning to its final end. It was very good and it is now, presently, very good.

Yes, I believe. I believe that God is a Motherfucker with a bizarre sense of humor and a fondness for genocide, and can be found in the darkness as easily as It can be found in the day. At the heart of every light there's a speck of darkness, just as in every darkness there's a core of light. Such dualities don't fit easily in the human head or soul: we prefer simple divisions - Jesus and Judas, God and Satan.

My God is an artist. If It has a morality then It's morality is incomprehensible - but I can see on every hand that It has an aesthetic. What we see as 'attibutes' of God we see first in ourselves and then read back into our understanding of God as idealizations of our own better nature. And we do the same, but in reverse, for Satan - making him an idealization of our own base selves. The nature of God is in impenetrable light and fundamental darkness. And what we see when we look at both is ourselves.

Let this stand as my reply to AndyBaker, as well.

To: WyoMoo

All of that aside, the thing I disagree with is that I think the Bible does give us a bit of a glimpse into the essence of God. As mere mortals, I don't think anyone can ever even come close to fully comprehend Him, but I think we can have SOME insight into Him. Otherwise, how would one be able to say that He is great or good? But there is still no way that one can ever fully "get" God.


I agree. In the OT it reveals God's fondness for killing, which extended to sending wild bears to rip apart the youths who laughed at Elisha's baldness. It extends to the freeing of the Israelites (and the death by Angelic visitation of every living first-born thing in Egypt not marked by the appointed sign). There's plenty to be observed in relation to God's nature, particularly in the OT. But none of it corresponds to the woolly minded self-congratulation most of us indulge in when we think of God.

I'm glad you found this interesting.
on Nov 16, 2006
In the OT it reveals God's fondness for killing, which extended to sending wild bears to rip apart the youths who laughed at Elisha's baldness. It extends to the freeing of the Israelites (and the death by Angelic visitation of every living first-born thing in Egypt not marked by the appointed sign). There's plenty to be observed in relation to God's nature, particularly in the OT


that’s an interesting insight. God is ultimately responsible for the whole shebang, including evil and negativity. As the prophet Isaiah said, “I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things (45:5-7 NIV)

Darkness and evil is therefore ultimately a facet of God, but I believe that light and goodness is God’s ultimate nature.

My God is an artist


Absolutely. Creation is God’s artwork. Whenever we look at the suffering and darkness in Creation, we are looking through a narrow scope at a ‘contrast’ in the bigger picture. As is the case with all epic pageants, the full picture would not be as rich or beautiful if it were not for the deeper shades and contrasts of life. I believe that all darkness and negativity is ultimately redeemed by God’s goodness and love, which transcends all eternity, and which is the real stuff of God and Heaven.

Regarding the pain, suffering and darkness in this world, I agree with John F. Haught's insights: "In the symbol of the cross, Christian belief discovers a God who participates fully in the world’s struggle and pain. Reflection on the Creation can lead us to contemplate more explicitly the mystery of God as it is made manifest in the story of life’s suffering, the epitome of which lies for Christians in the crucifixion of Jesus. ... Christian faith provides us with an image of God that is not only logically consistent with but also fruitfully illuminative of the Darwinian picture of life.” (Said in context with evolution, but I think Haught's point is revelant to the world's suffering in general.)
on Nov 16, 2006
Emp,

Your writing so often leaves me at a loss for words. You write passionately, you write eloquently, in a way that the reader cannot help but feel either drawn to or away from your writing. This article is no different.

While you and I may be on divergent paths as far as our faiths are concerned, it is no small amount of respect I give you for the fact that your faith is genuine, and contemplated, not some rote recitation of a long shelved catechism.

Or, to put it more succinctly: good piece.
on Nov 17, 2006
To: Gideon MacLeish

Thank you for the thoughtful words. Yes, we're on divergent paths - but I have more in common with a person of any faith, at all, than I do with those who refuse to believe in what one blogger I know of refers to as 'sky fairies'. The fool hath said in his heart there is no God. But there is - and while it may be a propitious thing to rouse Its attention (may) it is not necessarily a good thing, nor a wise thing.

Because if you rouse It enough, you will get exactly what you want.

So I have much more in common with someone like yourself than, and even with someone like KFC (we may not like every member of our family - but they are still family), than I do with those who, for example, when asked about the origin of the universe reply that it emerged through those processes that science is slowly revealing.

And? Why should God not work through evolution? Through the laws of physics, of gravity and light speed? 'Miracles' are only the exceptions God uses to prove the rules - and as an act of aesthetics or humor. A process is only a path followed to reach an end and the process itself is not an explanation of itself nor a proof or disproof of any argument concerning the origins of processes.

And like you I prefer those who think about their faith and make it their own.
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