"If it's provable we can kill it."
Or, why I loathe Israel and its actions
Published on July 23, 2006 By EmperorofIceCream In Politics
Rightwinger, with whom I normally sympathise, recently posted an article (Link) concerning the current conflict in Lebanon. What follows is the comment I posted on that thread. Since I took a profoundly anti-Israeli, anti-Christian stance, I fully expect Rightwinger to delete my response from his thread (as he has every right to do).

However, I am so incensed, so angered and revolted by the gist of what he had to say, so profoundly and utterly disgusted by the responses of KFC in particular, that I am determined that my response shall not simply disappear into the ether of the blogsphere. I am determined it shall have an independent existence in its own right: hence what follows, which is an exact reproduction of my thoughts as I posted them to Rightwingers thread.

There are certain aspects of the Israeli action in Lebanon that I admire and respect. In particular its ruthless prosecution of its perceived interests - a ruthlessness that could very well be emulated by the present (and future) governments of America. I deny no one's right to defend his life, the lives of those he loves; nor even his right to defend his property. What I condemn in Israel is not the ruthlessness of its actions, but its hypocrisy. I condemn its perpetual refusal to acknowledge and obey the Resolutions of the UN Security Council. I condemn its practice of apartheid; I condemn its murder of Palestinian children; I condemn its expropriation of land, its illegal incarceration of individuals denied due legal process; its kidnapping of those who speak out against it; its sanctioning, promotion, and support for militias responsible for the most heinous and atrocious crimes - including the crucifixion, while alive, of women and children in the massacres that took place at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

I condemn its use of tanks and automatic weapons aginst stone-throwing youths and children; I condemn its illegal expropriation of land; I condemn with my whole soul the entire process, an example non pareil of racial hegemony and the vilest racial prejudice, wherby the State of Israel 'treats' with those populations unfortunate enough to be subject to its mis-rule. And I condemn also the unthinking, supine, anti-democratic and unjust support which the USA provides to Israel, since that support is largely, and directly, responsible for the continuing anarchy and unmitigated suffering of the peoples of the Middle East.

I say, without equivocation, that it is to America's perpetual shame that it provides such support to Israel in its repugnant, criminal acts, when the USA could and ought to compel the murdering dogs of Israel to take part in honest and just negotiations for a lasting settlement in that region. Israel is America's beggar. Without the continuing support of the USA Israel could not have acheived, nor could it maintain, its position of intransigent barbarity and criminality with respect to the other nations of the region. Israel could not be what it presently is without the continuing support of the govenment of the United States of America - which makes of every American citizen a willing accomplice in the murder of every Palestinian child killed by the State of Israel.

I accept no excuses. I accept no justification. There can be no acceptable reason, based upon the sufferings of a nation in the past, for the suffering inflicted upon innocents in the present - especially when the nation responsible claims, as a consequence of its past miseries, to be the custodian of the moral conscience of the world.

I have already testified that I accept the right of everyone to defend their lives when they honestly understand their lives to be under direct threat. Who is more directly threatened than those who suffer the tyrrany of Israel? Whose land is it that is constantly stolen? Whose leaders are constantly under threat of murder by Gunship? Whose children are killed in the streets of their hometowns by the armed military of an occupying power?

Do not bleat to me about terrorism and the right of the Israeli devils to defend themselves. There is no greater exponent of State terrorism in the Middle East, no more accomplished murderers, than the State of Israel. If I could I would expunge its vile existence from the face of the Earth, and I wholeheartedly support any act of resistance against its tyrrany. And if such acts of resistance are also barborous, and I do not deny that they are, then remember this; those who hold the balance of economic, military, and political power in any given situation are those who ought to use those resources in pursuit of a just settlement of any dispute. If they do not then those who oppose them, who are far weaker than they, ought not to be condemned if they, too, respond to barbarism with barbarism.

May God remember and hold to account all those who are responsible for the horrors which occur, every day, in that miserably unfortunate region of the world.

Bearing all of this in mind, here is what I found it in me to say to both Rightwinger and that vile creature, KFC:

"I loathe Israel. I abominate, despise, detest, and would happily dance on the grave of every reeking Israeli corpse (just so you know where I stand). I loathe even more deeply those (primarily) American apologists for a regime that was birthed in terrostic violence (ask the widows of those murdered British servicemen killed by the likes of the prating hypocrites Begin and Ben Gurion). Any regime that would routinely murder children (dear me they're throwing stones again, let's fire up the automatic weapons; after all, they might scratch the paintwork on the tank) and excuse such vile acts is not fit to be tolerated by civil human beings.

I swear, I smile whenever I hear that yet another of these murderous devils has been slaughtered and had I my way in such things Israel would, indeed, long since have been eradicated from the face of the Earth.

I grow ever more nauseated by the apologetics of apparently intelligent people for a regime which routinely practices extra-judicial killing by Gunship; which routinely targets the civilian populations of other nations for slaughter simply because they are unwilling to kowtow to the filthy swine that makes national policy of land expropriation, illegal incarceration, kidnapping (anyone remember Vannunu? I thought not) and which blithely sponsors the crucifixion of women and children because they happen to be of the wrong ethnicity (no one remembers Sabra and Shatila either, right?)

Do not come bleating to me of the wrongs suffered by the Jews throughout the ages. Are the Palestinians of the generation suffering illegal occupation in Gaza responsible for the deaths in the extermination camps? No. Are they responsible for the Czarist pograms in Russia? No. Are they in any way culpable for any past wrong done to the Jewish nation? No.

But still the sympathisers with State terror, the apologists for apartheid, the excusers of child murder, prate endlessly of the wrongs suffered by Jews in the past; as if this excuses, or worse still, legitimates, the wrongs perpetrated every day against those innocent of any other crime than being Palestinian now, today. Crimes perpetrated by those who possess overwhelmingly greater resources, who use F16 Fighters to bomb neighborhoods devoid of even the remotest intimation of terrorist activity, who claim to be bastions of civilization and democracy.

But what disgusts me beyond measure is the palpable xenophobia, the stinking self-seeking prejudice of abominations such as KFC. In the name of Christ they claim justification for child-killers because, so they believe, they bring Armageddon (and their own supposed sanctification thereby) that little bit closer. In the name of Christianity, and the supposed 'rapture' of like-minded hypocrites and idolaters, they espouse the exact antithesis of Christian morality. May your God remember it against you, KFC, and judge you accordingly, along with all your fellow-travellers in hypocrisy, cant, and moral perversion who also claim to be 'Christians'. You revolt me beyond any capacity of words to make plain.

The one nation on earth that could make a positive, creative, and ultimately successful intervention in that wracked and wretched region by compelling the rabid dogs of Israel to negotiate honestly, the USA, will not do so. It is the greatest shame, and the true mark of Cain, that America refuses to do what it so easily could: refuses, because it is besotted by the idiot myth promulgated by such detestable vermin as KFC, moral pariahs and murderers by proxy all, that support for criminals such as Sharon (indicted and convicted by his own people as being directly involved in the horrors of Sabra and Shatila) must be unthinking, devoid of any element of criticism, and absolutely unstinting - no matter what horrors are practiced by the State of Israel in the name of its 'security' - because to do so brings closer, by some infinitesimal margin, the hoped for apotheosis of Christian history, the Second Coming of Christ.

More simply put, 'christians' such as KFC support the subjugation of innocents because they believe they will profit from their misery, since it brings the return of Jesus that much closer. May the spirits of dead Palestinian children torment you in Hell, KFC. There is so little of Christ in you that you might just as well be Muslim.

I hope he does come back: and that when he does you learn (you, personally, KFC) the truth of that old Tshirt slogan - Jesus is coming and is he pissed. You are a poster-child for everything you profess to stand against.

And you, Rightwinger: do you support Islamist cells in their attacks on civilians? Did you rejoice when the Saudi Jihadis murdered 3000 in New York? No? Then why support those who deny judicial process through murder by Gunship? You lament and decry the inability of the UN to be effective: do you also decry the flagrant breach of every Security Council Resolution levied against it by Israel? No.

Instead you mouth nonsense such as this: "Isreal, at the behest of its Western Allies, such as they are, has spent decades in negotiation, talking and talking until it is blue in the face, to no avail."

Israel has talked for no other reason than to bamboozle the world with its stinking hypocrisy, and to secure for itself the unthinking support of American politicians and diplomats. In its refusal to implement the unending stream of Security Council Resolutions demanding that it cease from its barbarous and criminal acts it has marked itself, for all to see, as a criminal regime, an exponent and past master of State terrorism, and an exemplar of the most shameless racial hegemony, not seen since the destruction of the former apartheid State of South Africa (with whom it was the firmest of friends and allies).

But that, of course, is excusable since its Israel that does these things: may your God remember it against you also, and hold you to account. Where in the American Constitution does it say that those who murder children are to be praised and supported? Nowhere.

But it hardly matters that the most cherished values of American civilization are spat upon every day, does it? Not so long as these vile acts are carried on by Israel, that great friend to the American people, who until today was happily prepared to bombard the airport in which American citizens had taken shelter.

Does the word 'traitor' have any meaning for you? I doubt it."

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on Jul 23, 2006
"5. Call a spade a spade (or a digging implement a digging implement): when a State behaves as Israel does it identifies itself for all to see as a criminal regime, an exponent of State terrorism, a racial hegemon, and a brutally efficient regional tyrant. From the point of view of realpolitik there is nothing wrong with any of that. From the point of view of natural justice such a state is an abomination and ought to be destroyed. The agon between those two stances is the point at which civil discourse originates, its trajectory being the confinement (not the resolution) of the conflict which develops from it. To see both sides, experience both sides, and synthesise (ala Hegel) both sides into some new state of being is not hypocrisy; it's being an evolved politically adult human being."


...or you could say they are finally just shrugging off the weak, mealy-mouthed crap that other nations are choked with, and doing what is in the interest of their nation and the rest be damned. I think you'd have been happy as a clam if the US had just made Fallujah a parking lot instead of catering to the cretinous bastards, as would I.

Yet... when it is Israel it becomes about "Arab children". If you were neutral toward Israel and the whole post-WW2 Jew thing I could see it as just a "conflict". When it is accompanied by what appears to be a clear bias against a particular people, though, wouldn't that make it hypocrisy?
on Jul 23, 2006
To: Bakerstreet

Yet... when it is Israel it becomes about "Arab children". If you were neutral toward Israel and the whole post-WW2 Jew thing I could see it as just a "conflict". When it is accompanied by what appears to be a clear bias against a particular people, though, wouldn't that make it hypocrisy?


No. It would make it a conscious prejudice. The only Jew I ever knew was a black-haired, black-eyed girl. And her Jewishness had nothing to do with why I liked hanging around with her. Conversely, her Jewishness didn't deter me from wanting to hang around with her either. I may well be an anti-Semite, if 'Semite' is to be identified with the nation of Israel, its policies and practices. And I certainly am opposed to the policies and practices of Israel, and have been ever since it ceased to be an underdog and became a regional super-power. Much will, and ought to be, demanded of those to whom much is given.

That is, I may well be an anti-Semite when 'Semite' is considered as a collective noun. And if that's so, it's so. At the level of the individual man or woman, handsome is as handsome does. I am however anti-Israeli, and will be till they stop posing as the world's most attractive victim and fess up to the fact that they are racially bigoted towards the people with whom, unless they go the whole hog and set up extermination camps of their own, they must perforce share the region.

I admire their grasp of their own interests and their willingness to follow through on those interests. I despise their covert racism and their continual playing of the victim card. They may well be ruthless, and ruthlessness can be an admirable political attribute: but is there any rule against cowards, liars, racists, murderers, and hand-wringing apologists for the cult of the victim being ruthless? No.

But I will say this of them. They are more honest, and more admirable, than those such as the... creature... KFC, and they are more admirable than those unthinking apologists for natural injustice who support them in America, precisely because they honestly do what they believe to be necessary and do so without apology or regret. I say 'honestly', but what I actually mean, I think, is publically. Whatever their protestations of innocence, virtue and victimhood, in the end, despite whether the world sees them for the liars and hypocrites that they are, they do what has to be done in order to ensure their survival.

And that's something my inner Motherfucker is always going to cheer for.
on Jul 23, 2006
I think you'd have been happy as a clam if the US had just made Fallujah a parking lot instead of catering to the cretinous bastards, as would I.


I'd be happy if we made the entire region a parking lot (so long as prices to park there were reasonable). I truly and honestly believe that if America were to wake up tomorrow and realise that these intractable, intransigent, murdering and murderous sonsofwhores (and I include the Palestinians and the likes of Hezbollah in that definition, along with Israel) are nothing but a thorn in our side, a waste of our money and time, and nuked all of them, including Israel, back to the stone-age in which they belong, the world in general would be a much happier and prosperous place.

Please, someone, explain to me the basis of the American fascination with Israel. Ever since I became politically aware (not politically educated, not politically sophisticated, but aware) at eight or nine, as a consequence of European coverage of the Vietnam war, I've followed America's love-affair with Israel with fascination.

At first, in the days of the Six Day War (which no one can deny was an absolutely heroic and entirely stunning military campaign - no one can say that that the Israelis don't kick ass in the region under their control) that infatuation seemed perfectly reasonable. America has always been, to me, the home of the defenders of the underdog. But now... What is it about Israel, other than an imagined guilt for not saving Jews from the Nazis (there were far more important things to do at the time - like defeating the Wehrmacht) that has led to this abominable and disgusting symbiosis?

I confess, it eludes me.
on Jul 23, 2006
To: Bakerstreet

or you could say they are finally just shrugging off the weak, mealy-mouthed crap that other nations are choked with, and doing what is in the interest of their nation and the rest be damned. I think you'd have been happy as a clam if the US had just made Fallujah a parking lot instead of catering to the cretinous bastards, as would I.


I do say this. And part of me is entirely in awe of the political realism that allows them to behave as they do. That doesn't mean that, in another mood entirely, I agree with or approve of what they do - I do not.

As a matter of simple human self-interest (my simple human self-interest; my interest in having access to the resources and facilities that will allow me to do what I want to do) an accommodation of some kind must be reached between the Arabs and the Jews - and the Jews and the Persians, the Medes etc., ad nauseaum ad infinitum) because too much of what the world needs to make itself work is located in that region.

This selfishness is at the root of much of my disgust and outrage related to American policy (if such it can be called) in the Middle East. Our (yours and mine) most vital interests have been hijacked by a sentimental, uber-religious, grotesquely superstitious lobby, that believes its own supposed eschatological interests trump those of the rest of us who live in the real world.

Unbelievably (unbelievable when considering the evolving catastrophe that is oil-depletion and scarcity of natural and vital resources) this situation is locked in the hands of those who, like that vile worm KFC, believe that chaos in the Middle East will bring back Jesus Christ.

Screw Jesus Christ. I'm not interested in the superstitious longing of religious imbeciles - I'm interested in being able to gas up my car without it breaking my bank account. And so is most of America. But who dares say that, who dares challenge the incorrigible blindness of every American government since WW2 to its natural interest, when faced with the trump-card of the accusation of anti-semitism?

A trump-card which is knowingly played by both Israel and its idiot sympathizers. No one, no one, who aspires to actual political power in America can afford to criticize Israel (you are more likely to be forgiven for calling a Black a nigger on prime-time TV than you are to be forgiven for accusing Israel of wrong-doing). And until that changes, American policy in the Middle East is going to be hamstrung and castrated by America's attachment to a bunch of xenophobic desert-dwelling religious bigots with the savvy to exploit the gullible sentimentalism of others at every turn.

Am I an anti-Semite? No. But I'm profoundly opposed to Israeli interests, precisely because they run counter to my own.
on Jul 23, 2006
Actually, that was my drunken weary ass responding to my wife, not little-whip talking to herself. Duh on me...

V^^^^^^^^V bites
on Jul 23, 2006
I don't think you are an anti-Semite, firstly. You have the trappings of such, and people who don't read much of what you write might jump to that conclusion, but if they hang in there they'll see that you hate everyone equally. You don't want to lord over any particular race, you'd prefer to lord over them all. You don't blindly offer discrimination to the minority in the favor of the majority, you'd discriminate against everyone.

(and I mean that in the nicest possible way...)

Second, our infatuation with Israel dates back to the rush by all the old empires to raise flags in the Middle East. We in America got there really late after Spain and France and the rest had divided the place up. Then, in WW2 Arab leaders decided to back Germany, which basically doomed them when the time came to start feeling bad about the Holocaust.

Then, they converted their love of Nazis to opportunistic alliances with the Soviet Union. Israel became a foothold in an area that had been bought out by our enemies. Now, instead of Nazis and the Soviet Union, it's fundamentalist Islam that hates us. In the end, we always pick Israel because they are the ones that hate us the least, like anything else.

You over-estimate religion's influence on our policy. Conservative preachers translate our Machiavellian international politics into religious terms to satisfy voters, or to enrage them if it is a non-conservative president. Leftist presidents usually find themselves on the outs with preachers, are less apt to hold commie grudges in the middle east, and are more apt to be tolerant of fundamentalist Islam...

You see it is always granting the benefit of the doubt to the one that hates us the least, even in INTERNAL US religiously motivated politics. Even when you talk about KFC, you point out that she's basically working in HER self interest. Isn't this the dog-eat-dog world you love?

Granted, everyone could be honest and admit why they do what they do, but we have to indoctrinate our kids gently, lest their juvenile Disney mentality makes them into sympathizers, right?
on Jul 24, 2006
Wow! This is so different than watching the O'Reily Factor. I have read(not word for word)all of the responses to this post and find it amazing that Israel doesn't come by and kill you who say those bad things about her. You atheist and god haters will have to deal with God eventualy, and that's only right. The outer darkness,where you will probally end up at, is like the trillion times gazillion megabyte hard drive in space where you can rant on about how unfair God is (IS being the key word)and never have to worry about how God worked everything out in the land of eternal life without including you. No one will hear you. It is so vast and dark that you all will be there alone, with only your sad fate to contemplate, and not the fading memory of God's glorious Light that you rejected. In fact, you were to be included up until where you made that wrong turn, where you for some un-godly reason turned away from the Light. Come on, everyone take a few deep breaths and calm yourselves.
You of course know that 'Israel' means one who 'strives' with God, right? If you are reading this response, you really need to think about that. It is the core substance of the Judeo-Christian reality that the world is. Believe me, the outer darkness sucks. Vote republican in '06 and '08.
on Jul 24, 2006
" You of course know that 'Israel' means one who 'strives' with God, right? If you are reading this response, you really need to think about that. It is the core substance of the Judeo-Christian reality that the world is. Believe me, the outer darkness sucks. Vote republican in '06 and '08."


If that isn't a sneaky Democrat propagandist I can't imagine them doing a better job. If you want our Republican candidates to win, the best thing you can do is keep your mouth shut and associate your ilk with them as little as possible.
on Jul 24, 2006
You of course know that 'Israel' means one who 'strives' with God, right?


if you're truly of a certain age (like old enuff to be anyone's forefather), you of course know seruatan spelled backwards is natures.
on Jul 24, 2006
and now with the so called war on terror, Israel has taken full advantage of the situation and as i have said in my thread seeks to redraw the map of the middle east
---Bahu

I'm not much into the whole End of Days stuff, but many theologians accept it as one condition, or sign, of the return of Christ that God will restore Israel to its original borders.
This would include, unless I'm mistaken (and I probably am, since I'm not looking at a map of ancient Isreal), modern-day Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Let the dissing commence........
on Jul 24, 2006
if you're truly of a certain age (like old enuff to be anyone's forefather), you of course know seruatan spelled backwards is natures.


no it isn't. it's nataures.
on Jul 24, 2006
To: Bakerstreet

I don't think you are an anti-Semite, firstly. You have the trappings of such, and people who don't read much of what you write might jump to that conclusion, but if they hang in there they'll see that you hate everyone equally. You don't want to lord over any particular race, you'd prefer to lord over them all. You don't blindly offer discrimination to the minority in the favor of the majority, you'd discriminate against everyone.(and I mean that in the nicest possible way...)


Congrats on creating the first really insightful comment (other than those of my wife, who knows me inside out and back to front) on my blog. You are quite right. Ideally, I'd be able to kill you all. Of course, that's exceedingly unlikely to happen (that I should suddenly be endowed with the ability to eradicate 99.99 recurring per cent of the human race) - but I keep hoping. There are some sections of the human race that I dislike more than others. And there are some sections of the human race that I can tolerate more easily than others. But generally speaking I'd happily kill you all.

You aren't fit to draw breath.

I grant you that this, generally, is not considered to be a healthy attitude - which is why I've spent most of my adult life avoiding the clutches of the psychotherapeutic community. But it is at least honest, and egalitarian.
on Jul 24, 2006
To: forefather1

Dear me. The epitome of the unthinking, self-aggrandizing, self-obsessed and self congratulatory Religious Political Wing. Yes, I'm aware that Isreal is in a state of existential conflict with its God. Does that mean I ought to smile happily every time I pay 3 dollars per gallon of gas?

I really don't give a fuck what the Jews believe - or you, for that matter. Had I my way you, and every other pro-Israeli, anti-American traitorous piece of shit would be laboring in the salt mines in order to keep the roads clear at Christmas.

Take your self-satisfaction and shove it up your ass. I grow ever more nauseated by those who profess to have some peculiar insight into the ineffable and the incommunicable.

While you may think you know your god, I doubt very much if God is acquainted with you (though, of course, I may be wrong).

Enjoy your certainty while it lasts.
on Jul 25, 2006
To: Bakerstreet

Isn't this the dog-eat-dog world you love?


Actually, no. In the world I would prefer the overt prejudice and self-congratulatory bigotry of the likes of KFC would result in an obvious and immediate punitive conflagration that would incontinently consume her and all those who deal with similarly simplistic shibboleths. Alas, God has too much of a sense of humor to fall in with such innocent hopes and aspirations.

The likes of the vile worm, the reeking idolater and hypocrite KFC (dear me, how deeply I despise her and her ilk, these traitors to all they profess to espouse) remind me too completely of my own history as a zealot and a bigot. In the world I would prefer, the mere profession of such disgusting views would instantaneously result in a holy conflagration that would consume her and all her tribe. Alas, it's not to be.

And since I can't count on such a holy conflagration, nor upon the good will of humanity generally (which is as common as blood extracted from stones) I'm forced to rely upon that most unreliable of all human faculties - political comprehension. Upon that most delicate and fragile of all political constructs - the civil. Considering myself to be a member of a civil society I wish to be left alone. Humanity revolts me and I wish to have as little to do with it as possible.

I'm charitable enough to suppose that others feel about me as I do about them. Therefore I'm willing to engage in an act of toleration so long as others are willing to tolerate me. If they are not, and if they are stupid enough to impinge upon my self-imposed isolation, I'll happily blow their brains out. I don't like people. I want nothing to do with them. I wish to avoid them, and I wish that they will avoid me.

That's the function of the civil sphere: a place where citizens may interact without interfering with the lives they live as private individuals. America has lost all sense of the public, being concerned with nothing but publicity. Since Natural Justice (the nature of which is blindingly apparent to all, and which is in its essence the Defender of the individual against the majority) is not an ethos which makes an appeal to the American majority then I would prefer a world in which Artificial Authority is recognised by all. And America is the home of such Artificial Authority: nowhere, in the history of the world, has Hobbes's compact with Sovereign Authority been more explicitly made.

I make myself laugh: there is no possibility by which the American Majority can be brought to recognise both their Obligation and their Rights: that being so I'm forced to hope for a world in which civility, rather than the War of All against All (which is the dog eat dog scenario you propose), predominates.

I hope for such a situation not because I am a humanitarian but because I'm lazy; such a situation is less demanding, less taxing, than the intervenionist, holier-than-thou, paradigm of politics with which we are presently confronted. Such a vision of civility gives room for the fact that I don't like you, and I have no desire to make any effort on your behalf.

Alas for me, the ruling political paradigm demands an interventionism I have no interest in. My only choice is to resist (which requires a effort I'm not willing to make) or to acquiesce in the idiot activism of others.

So I acquiesce. Interventionism is not in my nature: I'd rather watch you all die of natural causes. Since that's not likely to happen I have to hope for my second choice; the appearance of some world wide Revolution that would embody both the freedom of the individual and the selfless commitment to others which is the fundamental contravention of all that America currently values.

Fat chance, right? But that's what hope is: the imagination of what is not. And I engage in it not because I think it's something valuable in its own rigt, but because it's an antagonism to which I think I ought to be attached. As I've said elsewhere, I used to be a christian, and I still live in the dusk of my own idols. Ah well. C'est la vie - c'est la guerre. At least I'm now aware of my own stupidity, even if I can't do anything about it.

I don't want to eat you. I want to cut your throat and watch you bleed to death. You deserve nothing less. And nor do I.
on Jul 25, 2006
Don't you see KFC's ethos as being an extension of that natural justice, though? How exactly does your admittedly arrogant self-promotion and condemnation of anything less than you differ from the KFC's? Sure, she's got her intellectualized concepts that aren't based on the 'real world', but who doesn't?

I just think that when you express your loathing for KFC's ilk, you aren't really differing with their picking and choosing between Israel and Arabs, or this or that vice. You're upset because they make excuses that make them feel justified to do something wrong when you are happy just being wrong. Right?

Do you think, though, that your artificial authority would last long if everyone, as I asked before, walked around telling their kids they are wrong? Don't you think that dishonesty and cultural delusion is just as wonderfully self-serving and part of the natural order you like?

I mean, who wins? The nation that is constantly harrowed by self-loathing and guilt because they are always wrong, or the nation that deludes themselves into believing that everything they need to do to win is right? I understand you'd prefer them to admit they are wrong and do it anyway, but don't you think self-delusion is the only way to avoid the human tendency for self-loathing?
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